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Comment comprendre les résultats de MDLP, Dodecad et PuntDnal - un ancêtre de la Perse ou du Juif?

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Bonjour,

comme vous le lirez dans l'article du lien suivant, les juifs ashkénazes se sont mariés avec des femmes des populations locales d'Europe centrale et les marqueurs correspondants se sont transmis au sein du groupe fermé qu'ils ont constitué.

Vous pouvez donc (comme signalé à plusieurs reprises dans ce forum) avoir un patrimoine génétique proche de certaines populations sans pour autant avoir des ancêtres dans ces populations. L'inverse étant bien sur possible.

https://www.alterinfo.net/Les-origines-surprenantes-des-juifs-ashkenazes_a138177.html

Cordialement
msamuel6
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wienerfrau escribió: 19 Enero 2020, 18:23 Bonjour, je voudrais savoir comment comprendre a mes resultats ci-dessous.Dans ma famille on se dit que nous avons un ancêtre juif, mais je n'ai rien trouvé dans les registres, sauf que j'ai beaucoup de matchs avec des Juifs ashkénazes sur Myheritage et Gedmatch. Je suis d´origine tcheque. Mon haplogroupe est H6. Quelle est votre opinion? Est-ce plutôt un ancêtre de la Perse / Iran / Irak / Asie du Sud-Ouest ou plutôt un Juif? Merci bcp!

MDLP World
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_and_East_European 42.71
2 South_and_West_European 42.46
3 Caucaus_Parsia 9.38
4 Middle_East 4.66
5 Mesoamerican 0.67
6 Indian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Czech 3.09
2 Slovenian 3.15
3 Hungarian 3.45
4 German 3.6
5 Slovakian 3.83
6 Croatian_V 3.91
7 German-North 3.99
8 Croatian 4.33
9 German_V 4.47
10 CEU_V 4.95
11 Austrian 5.09
12 Norwegian_V 5.93
13 Bosnian 6.06
14 Swedish 6.67
15 Ukrainian-West 6.99
16 CEU 7.53
17 Welsh 7.59
18 Ukrainian_V 7.7
19 Latvian_V 8.18
20 Sorb 8.26

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.1% German-North + 5.9% Jew-Iran @ 1.07
2 93.9% German-North + 6.1% Jew-Iraqi @ 1.08
3 94% German-North + 6% Jew_Iraqi @ 1.11
4 93.7% German-North + 6.3% Jew_Georgia @ 1.12
5 66.2% Croatian + 33.8% Sorb @ 1.14
6 94% German-North + 6% Jew_Kurd @ 1.15
7 62% Slovakian + 38% Bosnian @ 1.2
8 72.6% Croatian + 27.4% Polish_V @ 1.2
9 73.8% Croatian + 26.2% Russian_South @ 1.22
10 93.5% German-North + 6.5% Druze @ 1.23
11 93.8% German-North + 6.2% Jew-Uzbekistan @ 1.23
12 93.8% German-North + 6.2% Jew_Azerbaijan @ 1.23
13 93.9% German-North + 6.1% Jew_Tat @ 1.24
14 56% Sorb + 44% Serbian @ 1.24
15 72.6% Ukrainian + 27.4% Kosovar @ 1.24
16 70.9% Croatian + 29.1% Belarusian_V @ 1.24
17 51.5% Serbian + 48.5% Polish_V @ 1.26
18 58% Bosnian + 42% Sorb @ 1.26
19 94.2% German-North + 5.8% Samaritian @ 1.27
20 93.4% German-North + 6.6% Lebanese @ 1.27


puntDNAL K12 Modern
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_HG 40.95
2 Anatolian_NF 32.55
3 Caucasus_HG 22.35
4 South_African_HG 2.19
5 Near_East 1.48
6 Oceanian 0.48

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 3.47
2 Dutch_South 3.5
3 Utahn_European 5.34
4 English_South 5.45
5 Dutch_North 5.46
6 Croatian 5.85
7 Irish 5.86
8 German_North 6.08
9 Belgian 6.33
10 German_South 6.37
11 Czech 6.52
12 Romanian 7.4
13 Scottish_West 7.41
14 Norwegian 8.4
15 Swedish 9.96
16 French 11.03
17 Icelandic 11.19
18 Bulgarian 12.44
19 Belarusian 14.68
20 Mordovian 15.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.9% Dutch_South + 2.1% Khomani @ 2.2
2 98.1% Hungarian + 1.9% Khomani @ 2.36
3 87.2% Irish + 12.8% Kumyk @ 2.83
4 88.6% Irish + 11.4% North_Ossetian @ 2.9
5 84.7% Norwegian + 15.3% Turkish_Trabzon @ 2.91
6 84% Norwegian + 16% Laz @ 2.91
7 87.3% Irish + 12.7% Balkar @ 2.94
8 89.1% German_North + 10.9% Armenian @ 2.94
9 87.9% German_North + 12.1% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.94
10 90.2% Irish + 9.8% Abkhasian @ 2.95
11 86.5% Scottish_West + 13.5% Armenian @ 2.96
12 84.7% Norwegian + 15.3% Armenian @ 2.96
13 85.9% Scottish_West + 14.1% Laz @ 2.96
14 87.3% Irish + 12.7% Adygei @ 2.96
15 50.9% Hungarian + 49.1% Dutch_South @ 3
16 89.6% Irish + 10.4% Turkish_Trabzon @ 3
17 88.7% German_North + 11.3% Laz @ 3
18 90.7% Dutch_North + 9.3% Druze @ 3.01
19 89.6% German_North + 10.4% Iranian_Jew @ 3.02
20 83.2% Norwegian + 16.8% Turkish_Kayseri @ 3.03


Dodecad World9
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 70.51
2 Caucasus_Gedrosia 15.39
3 Southern 11.66
4 Siberian 0.79
5 Amerindian 0.7
6 South_Asian 0.69
7 Australasian 0.21
8 African 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 3.02
2 Dutch (Dodecad) 4.42
3 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 4.5
4 German (Dodecad) 4.88
5 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 5.13
6 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 5.75
7 Kent (1000 Genomes) 6.4
8 Cornwall (1000 Genomes) 6.43
9 British (Dodecad) 6.48
10 Argyll (1000 Genomes) 6.88
11 British_Isles (Dodecad) 7.38
12 Irish (Dodecad) 7.5
13 French (HGDP) 7.82
14 Orcadian (HGDP) 7.84
15 Polish (Dodecad) 7.98
16 Orkney (1000 Genomes) 8.33
17 French (Dodecad) 9.19
18 Belorussian (Behar) 9.58
19 Russian_B (Behar) 10.12
20 Russian (Dodecad) 10.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.2% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 11.8% Lezgins (Behar) @ 0.43
2 89.1% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 10.9% Turks (Behar) @ 0.44
3 91.9% German (Dodecad) + 8.1% Lezgins (Behar) @ 0.48
4 88.5% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 11.5% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 0.48
5 91.6% German (Dodecad) + 8.4% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 0.52
6 88.4% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 11.6% Georgians (Behar) @ 0.52
7 87.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 12.1% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 0.53
8 88.9% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 11.1% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.55
9 71.6% Lithuanian (Dodecad) + 28.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 0.58
10 90.7% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9.3% Uzbekistan_Jews @ 0.58
11 89.6% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 10.4% Armenians (Behar) @ 0.6
12 90.6% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9.4% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 0.61
13 90.7% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9.3% Armenians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.61
14 72% Lithuanian (Dodecad) + 28% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 0.62
15 89.9% Irish (Dodecad) + 10.1% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 0.62
16 89.8% Irish (Dodecad) + 10.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 0.63
17 91% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9% Azerbaijan_Jews @ 0.64
18 86.4% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 13.6% Adygei (HGDP) @ 0.65
19 90.6% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 9.4% Lezgins (Behar) @ 0.65
20 91.6% German (Dodecad) + 8.4% Adygei (HGDP) @ 0.65


puntDNAL K10 Ancient
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 45.91
2 ENF 25.66
3 CHG 25.01
4 Sub-Saharan 2.77


Finished reading population data. 108 populations found.
10 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Utahn_white @ 3.168389
2 Irish @ 3.198325
3 English_South @ 3.606432
4 Croatian @ 4.105442
5 Hungarian @ 4.194709
6 German_North @ 4.504338
7 German_South @ 4.926606
8 Czech @ 5.145704
9 Scottish_West @ 6.399967
10 Ukrainian @ 8.566728
11 French @ 9.222599
12 Norwegian @ 9.303204
13 Icelandic @ 10.045215
14 Bulgarian @ 13.105692
15 Belarusian @ 13.549383
16 Mordovian @ 15.052819
17 Finnish @ 16.905577
18 Italian_North @ 16.941000
19 Spanish_Northeast @ 17.352139
20 Estonian @ 17.504944

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% German_North +50% Croatian @ 2.877556


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lithuanian +25% Utahn_white +25% Sephardic_Jew @ 2.381978


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Lithuanian + Belarusian + Utahn_white + Sicilian @ 2.249596
2 Lithuanian + Scottish_West + Ukrainian + Sicilian @ 2.279859
3 Lithuanian + Norwegian + German_North + Sicilian @ 2.280726
4 Lithuanian + Norwegian + Norwegian + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.284099
5 Lithuanian + Ukrainian + German_North + Sicilian @ 2.292451
6 Lithuanian + Belarusian + German_South + Sicilian @ 2.298451
7 Lithuanian + Ukrainian + English_South + Sicilian @ 2.313417
8 Lithuanian + Ukrainian + Czech + Sicilian @ 2.320379
9 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Norwegian + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.327471
10 Lithuanian + Icelandic + English_South + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.328562
11 Lithuanian + Scottish_West + German_North + Sicilian @ 2.337106
12 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Belarusian + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.344759
13 Lithuanian + Icelandic + German_North + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.364502
14 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Utahn_white + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.370949
15 Lithuanian + Belarusian + Croatian + Sicilian @ 2.380774
16 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Utahn_white + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.381978
17 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Czech + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.384094
18 Lithuanian + Belarusian + Irish + Sicilian @ 2.391418
19 Lithuanian + Scottish_West + Scottish_West + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.392615
20 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + French + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.393027
Que donne vos résultats eurogene k36 ? Et avez vous essayez dna land , yourdnaportal,admixture studio , living dna ? J'ai aussi des origines orientales donc je pourrais peut-être vous aider sur cette question.
msamuel6
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wienerfrau escribió: 20 Enero 2020, 19:17
msamuel6 escribió: 19 Enero 2020, 23:38
wienerfrau escribió: 19 Enero 2020, 18:23 Bonjour, je voudrais savoir comment comprendre a mes resultats ci-dessous.Dans ma famille on se dit que nous avons un ancêtre juif, mais je n'ai rien trouvé dans les registres, sauf que j'ai beaucoup de matchs avec des Juifs ashkénazes sur Myheritage et Gedmatch. Je suis d´origine tcheque. Mon haplogroupe est H6. Quelle est votre opinion? Est-ce plutôt un ancêtre de la Perse / Iran / Irak / Asie du Sud-Ouest ou plutôt un Juif? Merci bcp!

MDLP World
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_and_East_European 42.71
2 South_and_West_European 42.46
3 Caucaus_Parsia 9.38
4 Middle_East 4.66
5 Mesoamerican 0.67
6 Indian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Czech 3.09
2 Slovenian 3.15
3 Hungarian 3.45
4 German 3.6
5 Slovakian 3.83
6 Croatian_V 3.91
7 German-North 3.99
8 Croatian 4.33
9 German_V 4.47
10 CEU_V 4.95
11 Austrian 5.09
12 Norwegian_V 5.93
13 Bosnian 6.06
14 Swedish 6.67
15 Ukrainian-West 6.99
16 CEU 7.53
17 Welsh 7.59
18 Ukrainian_V 7.7
19 Latvian_V 8.18
20 Sorb 8.26

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.1% German-North + 5.9% Jew-Iran @ 1.07
2 93.9% German-North + 6.1% Jew-Iraqi @ 1.08
3 94% German-North + 6% Jew_Iraqi @ 1.11
4 93.7% German-North + 6.3% Jew_Georgia @ 1.12
5 66.2% Croatian + 33.8% Sorb @ 1.14
6 94% German-North + 6% Jew_Kurd @ 1.15
7 62% Slovakian + 38% Bosnian @ 1.2
8 72.6% Croatian + 27.4% Polish_V @ 1.2
9 73.8% Croatian + 26.2% Russian_South @ 1.22
10 93.5% German-North + 6.5% Druze @ 1.23
11 93.8% German-North + 6.2% Jew-Uzbekistan @ 1.23
12 93.8% German-North + 6.2% Jew_Azerbaijan @ 1.23
13 93.9% German-North + 6.1% Jew_Tat @ 1.24
14 56% Sorb + 44% Serbian @ 1.24
15 72.6% Ukrainian + 27.4% Kosovar @ 1.24
16 70.9% Croatian + 29.1% Belarusian_V @ 1.24
17 51.5% Serbian + 48.5% Polish_V @ 1.26
18 58% Bosnian + 42% Sorb @ 1.26
19 94.2% German-North + 5.8% Samaritian @ 1.27
20 93.4% German-North + 6.6% Lebanese @ 1.27


puntDNAL K12 Modern
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_HG 40.95
2 Anatolian_NF 32.55
3 Caucasus_HG 22.35
4 South_African_HG 2.19
5 Near_East 1.48
6 Oceanian 0.48

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 3.47
2 Dutch_South 3.5
3 Utahn_European 5.34
4 English_South 5.45
5 Dutch_North 5.46
6 Croatian 5.85
7 Irish 5.86
8 German_North 6.08
9 Belgian 6.33
10 German_South 6.37
11 Czech 6.52
12 Romanian 7.4
13 Scottish_West 7.41
14 Norwegian 8.4
15 Swedish 9.96
16 French 11.03
17 Icelandic 11.19
18 Bulgarian 12.44
19 Belarusian 14.68
20 Mordovian 15.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.9% Dutch_South + 2.1% Khomani @ 2.2
2 98.1% Hungarian + 1.9% Khomani @ 2.36
3 87.2% Irish + 12.8% Kumyk @ 2.83
4 88.6% Irish + 11.4% North_Ossetian @ 2.9
5 84.7% Norwegian + 15.3% Turkish_Trabzon @ 2.91
6 84% Norwegian + 16% Laz @ 2.91
7 87.3% Irish + 12.7% Balkar @ 2.94
8 89.1% German_North + 10.9% Armenian @ 2.94
9 87.9% German_North + 12.1% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.94
10 90.2% Irish + 9.8% Abkhasian @ 2.95
11 86.5% Scottish_West + 13.5% Armenian @ 2.96
12 84.7% Norwegian + 15.3% Armenian @ 2.96
13 85.9% Scottish_West + 14.1% Laz @ 2.96
14 87.3% Irish + 12.7% Adygei @ 2.96
15 50.9% Hungarian + 49.1% Dutch_South @ 3
16 89.6% Irish + 10.4% Turkish_Trabzon @ 3
17 88.7% German_North + 11.3% Laz @ 3
18 90.7% Dutch_North + 9.3% Druze @ 3.01
19 89.6% German_North + 10.4% Iranian_Jew @ 3.02
20 83.2% Norwegian + 16.8% Turkish_Kayseri @ 3.03


Dodecad World9
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 70.51
2 Caucasus_Gedrosia 15.39
3 Southern 11.66
4 Siberian 0.79
5 Amerindian 0.7
6 South_Asian 0.69
7 Australasian 0.21
8 African 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 3.02
2 Dutch (Dodecad) 4.42
3 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 4.5
4 German (Dodecad) 4.88
5 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 5.13
6 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 5.75
7 Kent (1000 Genomes) 6.4
8 Cornwall (1000 Genomes) 6.43
9 British (Dodecad) 6.48
10 Argyll (1000 Genomes) 6.88
11 British_Isles (Dodecad) 7.38
12 Irish (Dodecad) 7.5
13 French (HGDP) 7.82
14 Orcadian (HGDP) 7.84
15 Polish (Dodecad) 7.98
16 Orkney (1000 Genomes) 8.33
17 French (Dodecad) 9.19
18 Belorussian (Behar) 9.58
19 Russian_B (Behar) 10.12
20 Russian (Dodecad) 10.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.2% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 11.8% Lezgins (Behar) @ 0.43
2 89.1% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 10.9% Turks (Behar) @ 0.44
3 91.9% German (Dodecad) + 8.1% Lezgins (Behar) @ 0.48
4 88.5% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 11.5% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 0.48
5 91.6% German (Dodecad) + 8.4% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 0.52
6 88.4% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 11.6% Georgians (Behar) @ 0.52
7 87.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 12.1% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 0.53
8 88.9% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 11.1% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.55
9 71.6% Lithuanian (Dodecad) + 28.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 0.58
10 90.7% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9.3% Uzbekistan_Jews @ 0.58
11 89.6% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 10.4% Armenians (Behar) @ 0.6
12 90.6% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9.4% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 0.61
13 90.7% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9.3% Armenians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.61
14 72% Lithuanian (Dodecad) + 28% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 0.62
15 89.9% Irish (Dodecad) + 10.1% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 0.62
16 89.8% Irish (Dodecad) + 10.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 0.63
17 91% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9% Azerbaijan_Jews @ 0.64
18 86.4% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 13.6% Adygei (HGDP) @ 0.65
19 90.6% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 9.4% Lezgins (Behar) @ 0.65
20 91.6% German (Dodecad) + 8.4% Adygei (HGDP) @ 0.65


puntDNAL K10 Ancient
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 45.91
2 ENF 25.66
3 CHG 25.01
4 Sub-Saharan 2.77


Finished reading population data. 108 populations found.
10 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Utahn_white @ 3.168389
2 Irish @ 3.198325
3 English_South @ 3.606432
4 Croatian @ 4.105442
5 Hungarian @ 4.194709
6 German_North @ 4.504338
7 German_South @ 4.926606
8 Czech @ 5.145704
9 Scottish_West @ 6.399967
10 Ukrainian @ 8.566728
11 French @ 9.222599
12 Norwegian @ 9.303204
13 Icelandic @ 10.045215
14 Bulgarian @ 13.105692
15 Belarusian @ 13.549383
16 Mordovian @ 15.052819
17 Finnish @ 16.905577
18 Italian_North @ 16.941000
19 Spanish_Northeast @ 17.352139
20 Estonian @ 17.504944

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% German_North +50% Croatian @ 2.877556


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lithuanian +25% Utahn_white +25% Sephardic_Jew @ 2.381978


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Lithuanian + Belarusian + Utahn_white + Sicilian @ 2.249596
2 Lithuanian + Scottish_West + Ukrainian + Sicilian @ 2.279859
3 Lithuanian + Norwegian + German_North + Sicilian @ 2.280726
4 Lithuanian + Norwegian + Norwegian + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.284099
5 Lithuanian + Ukrainian + German_North + Sicilian @ 2.292451
6 Lithuanian + Belarusian + German_South + Sicilian @ 2.298451
7 Lithuanian + Ukrainian + English_South + Sicilian @ 2.313417
8 Lithuanian + Ukrainian + Czech + Sicilian @ 2.320379
9 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Norwegian + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.327471
10 Lithuanian + Icelandic + English_South + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.328562
11 Lithuanian + Scottish_West + German_North + Sicilian @ 2.337106
12 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Belarusian + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.344759
13 Lithuanian + Icelandic + German_North + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.364502
14 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Utahn_white + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.370949
15 Lithuanian + Belarusian + Croatian + Sicilian @ 2.380774
16 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Utahn_white + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.381978
17 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Czech + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.384094
18 Lithuanian + Belarusian + Irish + Sicilian @ 2.391418
19 Lithuanian + Scottish_West + Scottish_West + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.392615
20 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + French + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.393027
Que donne vos résultats eurogene k36 ? Et avez vous essayez dna land , yourdnaportal,admixture studio , living dna ? J'ai aussi des origines orientales donc je pourrais peut-être vous aider sur cette question.
Merci bcp pour votre reponse, ici sont mes resultas de K36:
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 2.20 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 10.63 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 6.04 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 7.69 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 10.34 Pct
Fennoscandian 14.92 Pct
French 5.37 Pct
Iberian 7.67 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 5.73 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 13.19 Pct
North_Caucasian 5.41 Pct
North_Sea 10.19 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 0.62 Pct

Je n´ai pas essayer d´autre que MyHeritage et Gedmatch.
Quelle est votre opinion? Merci d´avance.
Ha vue d'œil, vue vos % nord caucasien je pencherais plus pour une origine perse que juive car vos % de levantin (east med/neareast) et d'arabe sont nul...... Il fait que vous essayez dna land c'est gratuit et ça vous donnera une bonne base.
msamuel6
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Il y a living dna aussi, le téléchargement est gratuit mais si vous voulez plus de détails il faudra payer 29€ pour avoir des résultats plus précis, et c'est rapide, seulement quelques minutes pour obtenir des résultats.
msamuel6
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Vous pouvez aussi rentrer vos résultats Eurogenes k36 la dessus, cela vous indiquera vos origines du paléolithique, du neolithique et de l'age du cuivre. Ça peut toujours nous servir : https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K36expe2.htm
msamuel6
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wienerfrau escribió: 20 Enero 2020, 20:00 alors, Samuel, voila :-)

Du paléolithique
(ca 20 000 years go)

Europe 87
Anatolie 7
Caucase + Zagros 6

Du néolithique
(ca 7 000 years ago)

Chasseurs-Cueilleurs d'Europe 79
Fermiers Anatoliens et Européens: 15 dont Euro South-East: 8 et Anatolian: 7
Fermiers du Caucase et des Monts Zagros 6

De l'âge des métaux
(ca 4 500 years ago)

Europe du NE: Correspond à une partie d'anciens chasseurs-cueilleurs essentiellement restés dans le Nord-Est de l'Europe.
8
Indo-européens et assimilés: Correspond en partie aux anciens chasseurs-cueilleurs d'Europe et du caucase, ayant migrés avec les expansions indo-européennes.
76
Fermiers Européens: Correspond aux agriculteurs Européens de la fin du Néolithique.
12
Anatolian/Caucasian du Chalcolithique: Correspond aux Anatoliens du Chalcolithique ou âge du cuivre.
3
Point positif : vos % caucasus /zagros (montagne perse) apparaissent.
Point négatif : ces % disparaissent au débuts de l'ere antique (-2500 ans) apres vos % anatolien bien que négligeable et les % indo-européennes peuvent nous apporter plus d'informations donc autant vous dire qu'il faudra plus creuser mais si vous êtes fort en informatique et que vous voulez en découdre dès ce soir j'ai la solution pour vous :)
msamuel6
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1 ere étape, allez télécharger l'admixture studio sur ce site, le lien sera dans la partie télécharger :https://dnagenics.com/admixture-studio/
msamuel6
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wienerfrau escribió: 20 Enero 2020, 20:33 et qqc de Gedmatch? que vous preferez d´utiliser pour cet raison de la question persian?
Je dirai le mdlp mais gedmatch ne suffit pas, si vous voulez savoir la vérité ou du moins ce qui s'en rapproche, je vous conseille vraiment de télécharger l'admixture studio.
msamuel6
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wienerfrau escribió: 20 Enero 2020, 20:47 d´accord, merci!!!
Avez-vous réussi à le télécharger ? Si oui, ouvrez le dans vos fichier ordinateur, sur Admixture studio.
msamuel6
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wienerfrau escribió: 21 Enero 2020, 19:58 Bonjour Samuel, merci enormement pour ton aide. Que tu pense de Mytrueancestry? Tu as fait cet test deja?
C'est pas mal mais en temps que débutant c'est mieux d'essayer les sites comme yourdnaportal :)
msamuel6
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wienerfrau escribió: 26 Enero 2020, 20:12 Bonjour Samuel,
pour ce temps j´ai les resultats de Vahaduo -

Distance to: test
4.84716412 Croatian
5.46195936 Hungarian
6.44569624 Romanian
6.67894453 Ukrainian
6.86517298 Czech
7.34281962 Bulgarian
7.43310164 English
7.44235178 French
7.60666813 Norwegian
7.67613184 Scottish
9.95842357 Icelandic
10.11534478 Europe_LNBA
10.17523955 Spanish
11.16483766 Steppe_MLBA
12.22362467 Albanian
12.29054108 Estonian
12.98974981 Russian
13.17425520 Greek
13.53325534 Lithuanian
14.33872728 Finnish
14.74433451 Basque
16.25349809 Sicilian
17.70076270 Italian_South
18.31968886 Jew_Ashkenazi
20.85351289 Sardinian

Target: test
Distance: 27.4326% / 0.27432568
18.0 French
11.8 Jew_Iranian
9.8 Europe_LNBA
6.2 Sardinian
6.0 CHG
6.0 Jew_Moroccan
6.0 Motala12
4.4 Hungarian_KO1
4.0 Europe_EN
3.2 Steppe_Eneolithic
3.0 WHG
2.8 English
2.6 EHG
2.4 Jew_Libyan
2.2 Basque
2.2 Georgian
2.0 Greek
1.4 Italian_South
1.2 AG2
1.2 Druze
0.8 Levant_N
0.8 Moroccan
0.6 Steppe_EMBA
0.4 Anatolia_N
0.4 MA1
0.4 Natufian
0.2 Andamanese
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