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Comment comprendre les résultats de MDLP, Dodecad et PuntDnal - un ancêtre de la Perse ou du Juif?

wienerfrau
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Bonjour, je voudrais savoir comment comprendre a mes resultats ci-dessous.Dans ma famille on se dit que nous avons un ancêtre juif, mais je n'ai rien trouvé dans les registres, sauf que j'ai beaucoup de matchs avec des Juifs ashkénazes sur Myheritage et Gedmatch. Je suis d´origine tcheque. Mon haplogroupe est H6. Quelle est votre opinion? Est-ce plutôt un ancêtre de la Perse / Iran / Irak / Asie du Sud-Ouest ou plutôt un Juif? Merci bcp!

MDLP World
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_and_East_European 42.71
2 South_and_West_European 42.46
3 Caucaus_Parsia 9.38
4 Middle_East 4.66
5 Mesoamerican 0.67
6 Indian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Czech 3.09
2 Slovenian 3.15
3 Hungarian 3.45
4 German 3.6
5 Slovakian 3.83
6 Croatian_V 3.91
7 German-North 3.99
8 Croatian 4.33
9 German_V 4.47
10 CEU_V 4.95
11 Austrian 5.09
12 Norwegian_V 5.93
13 Bosnian 6.06
14 Swedish 6.67
15 Ukrainian-West 6.99
16 CEU 7.53
17 Welsh 7.59
18 Ukrainian_V 7.7
19 Latvian_V 8.18
20 Sorb 8.26

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.1% German-North + 5.9% Jew-Iran @ 1.07
2 93.9% German-North + 6.1% Jew-Iraqi @ 1.08
3 94% German-North + 6% Jew_Iraqi @ 1.11
4 93.7% German-North + 6.3% Jew_Georgia @ 1.12
5 66.2% Croatian + 33.8% Sorb @ 1.14
6 94% German-North + 6% Jew_Kurd @ 1.15
7 62% Slovakian + 38% Bosnian @ 1.2
8 72.6% Croatian + 27.4% Polish_V @ 1.2
9 73.8% Croatian + 26.2% Russian_South @ 1.22
10 93.5% German-North + 6.5% Druze @ 1.23
11 93.8% German-North + 6.2% Jew-Uzbekistan @ 1.23
12 93.8% German-North + 6.2% Jew_Azerbaijan @ 1.23
13 93.9% German-North + 6.1% Jew_Tat @ 1.24
14 56% Sorb + 44% Serbian @ 1.24
15 72.6% Ukrainian + 27.4% Kosovar @ 1.24
16 70.9% Croatian + 29.1% Belarusian_V @ 1.24
17 51.5% Serbian + 48.5% Polish_V @ 1.26
18 58% Bosnian + 42% Sorb @ 1.26
19 94.2% German-North + 5.8% Samaritian @ 1.27
20 93.4% German-North + 6.6% Lebanese @ 1.27


puntDNAL K12 Modern
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_HG 40.95
2 Anatolian_NF 32.55
3 Caucasus_HG 22.35
4 South_African_HG 2.19
5 Near_East 1.48
6 Oceanian 0.48

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 3.47
2 Dutch_South 3.5
3 Utahn_European 5.34
4 English_South 5.45
5 Dutch_North 5.46
6 Croatian 5.85
7 Irish 5.86
8 German_North 6.08
9 Belgian 6.33
10 German_South 6.37
11 Czech 6.52
12 Romanian 7.4
13 Scottish_West 7.41
14 Norwegian 8.4
15 Swedish 9.96
16 French 11.03
17 Icelandic 11.19
18 Bulgarian 12.44
19 Belarusian 14.68
20 Mordovian 15.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.9% Dutch_South + 2.1% Khomani @ 2.2
2 98.1% Hungarian + 1.9% Khomani @ 2.36
3 87.2% Irish + 12.8% Kumyk @ 2.83
4 88.6% Irish + 11.4% North_Ossetian @ 2.9
5 84.7% Norwegian + 15.3% Turkish_Trabzon @ 2.91
6 84% Norwegian + 16% Laz @ 2.91
7 87.3% Irish + 12.7% Balkar @ 2.94
8 89.1% German_North + 10.9% Armenian @ 2.94
9 87.9% German_North + 12.1% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.94
10 90.2% Irish + 9.8% Abkhasian @ 2.95
11 86.5% Scottish_West + 13.5% Armenian @ 2.96
12 84.7% Norwegian + 15.3% Armenian @ 2.96
13 85.9% Scottish_West + 14.1% Laz @ 2.96
14 87.3% Irish + 12.7% Adygei @ 2.96
15 50.9% Hungarian + 49.1% Dutch_South @ 3
16 89.6% Irish + 10.4% Turkish_Trabzon @ 3
17 88.7% German_North + 11.3% Laz @ 3
18 90.7% Dutch_North + 9.3% Druze @ 3.01
19 89.6% German_North + 10.4% Iranian_Jew @ 3.02
20 83.2% Norwegian + 16.8% Turkish_Kayseri @ 3.03


Dodecad World9
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 70.51
2 Caucasus_Gedrosia 15.39
3 Southern 11.66
4 Siberian 0.79
5 Amerindian 0.7
6 South_Asian 0.69
7 Australasian 0.21
8 African 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 3.02
2 Dutch (Dodecad) 4.42
3 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 4.5
4 German (Dodecad) 4.88
5 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 5.13
6 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 5.75
7 Kent (1000 Genomes) 6.4
8 Cornwall (1000 Genomes) 6.43
9 British (Dodecad) 6.48
10 Argyll (1000 Genomes) 6.88
11 British_Isles (Dodecad) 7.38
12 Irish (Dodecad) 7.5
13 French (HGDP) 7.82
14 Orcadian (HGDP) 7.84
15 Polish (Dodecad) 7.98
16 Orkney (1000 Genomes) 8.33
17 French (Dodecad) 9.19
18 Belorussian (Behar) 9.58
19 Russian_B (Behar) 10.12
20 Russian (Dodecad) 10.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.2% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 11.8% Lezgins (Behar) @ 0.43
2 89.1% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 10.9% Turks (Behar) @ 0.44
3 91.9% German (Dodecad) + 8.1% Lezgins (Behar) @ 0.48
4 88.5% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 11.5% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 0.48
5 91.6% German (Dodecad) + 8.4% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 0.52
6 88.4% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 11.6% Georgians (Behar) @ 0.52
7 87.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 12.1% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 0.53
8 88.9% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 11.1% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.55
9 71.6% Lithuanian (Dodecad) + 28.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 0.58
10 90.7% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9.3% Uzbekistan_Jews @ 0.58
11 89.6% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 10.4% Armenians (Behar) @ 0.6
12 90.6% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9.4% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 0.61
13 90.7% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9.3% Armenians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.61
14 72% Lithuanian (Dodecad) + 28% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 0.62
15 89.9% Irish (Dodecad) + 10.1% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 0.62
16 89.8% Irish (Dodecad) + 10.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 0.63
17 91% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9% Azerbaijan_Jews @ 0.64
18 86.4% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 13.6% Adygei (HGDP) @ 0.65
19 90.6% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 9.4% Lezgins (Behar) @ 0.65
20 91.6% German (Dodecad) + 8.4% Adygei (HGDP) @ 0.65


puntDNAL K10 Ancient
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 45.91
2 ENF 25.66
3 CHG 25.01
4 Sub-Saharan 2.77


Finished reading population data. 108 populations found.
10 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Utahn_white @ 3.168389
2 Irish @ 3.198325
3 English_South @ 3.606432
4 Croatian @ 4.105442
5 Hungarian @ 4.194709
6 German_North @ 4.504338
7 German_South @ 4.926606
8 Czech @ 5.145704
9 Scottish_West @ 6.399967
10 Ukrainian @ 8.566728
11 French @ 9.222599
12 Norwegian @ 9.303204
13 Icelandic @ 10.045215
14 Bulgarian @ 13.105692
15 Belarusian @ 13.549383
16 Mordovian @ 15.052819
17 Finnish @ 16.905577
18 Italian_North @ 16.941000
19 Spanish_Northeast @ 17.352139
20 Estonian @ 17.504944

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% German_North +50% Croatian @ 2.877556


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lithuanian +25% Utahn_white +25% Sephardic_Jew @ 2.381978


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Lithuanian + Belarusian + Utahn_white + Sicilian @ 2.249596
2 Lithuanian + Scottish_West + Ukrainian + Sicilian @ 2.279859
3 Lithuanian + Norwegian + German_North + Sicilian @ 2.280726
4 Lithuanian + Norwegian + Norwegian + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.284099
5 Lithuanian + Ukrainian + German_North + Sicilian @ 2.292451
6 Lithuanian + Belarusian + German_South + Sicilian @ 2.298451
7 Lithuanian + Ukrainian + English_South + Sicilian @ 2.313417
8 Lithuanian + Ukrainian + Czech + Sicilian @ 2.320379
9 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Norwegian + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.327471
10 Lithuanian + Icelandic + English_South + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.328562
11 Lithuanian + Scottish_West + German_North + Sicilian @ 2.337106
12 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Belarusian + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.344759
13 Lithuanian + Icelandic + German_North + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.364502
14 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Utahn_white + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.370949
15 Lithuanian + Belarusian + Croatian + Sicilian @ 2.380774
16 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Utahn_white + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.381978
17 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Czech + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.384094
18 Lithuanian + Belarusian + Irish + Sicilian @ 2.391418
19 Lithuanian + Scottish_West + Scottish_West + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.392615
20 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + French + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.393027

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Bonjour,

comme vous le lirez dans l'article du lien suivant, les juifs ashkénazes se sont mariés avec des femmes des populations locales d'Europe centrale et les marqueurs correspondants se sont transmis au sein du groupe fermé qu'ils ont constitué.

Vous pouvez donc (comme signalé à plusieurs reprises dans ce forum) avoir un patrimoine génétique proche de certaines populations sans pour autant avoir des ancêtres dans ces populations. L'inverse étant bien sur possible.

https://www.alterinfo.net/Les-origines-surprenantes-des-juifs-ashkenazes_a138177.html

Cordialement

msamuel6
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Mensajes: 626
wienerfrau escribió:
19 Enero 2020, 18:23
Bonjour, je voudrais savoir comment comprendre a mes resultats ci-dessous.Dans ma famille on se dit que nous avons un ancêtre juif, mais je n'ai rien trouvé dans les registres, sauf que j'ai beaucoup de matchs avec des Juifs ashkénazes sur Myheritage et Gedmatch. Je suis d´origine tcheque. Mon haplogroupe est H6. Quelle est votre opinion? Est-ce plutôt un ancêtre de la Perse / Iran / Irak / Asie du Sud-Ouest ou plutôt un Juif? Merci bcp!

MDLP World
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_and_East_European 42.71
2 South_and_West_European 42.46
3 Caucaus_Parsia 9.38
4 Middle_East 4.66
5 Mesoamerican 0.67
6 Indian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Czech 3.09
2 Slovenian 3.15
3 Hungarian 3.45
4 German 3.6
5 Slovakian 3.83
6 Croatian_V 3.91
7 German-North 3.99
8 Croatian 4.33
9 German_V 4.47
10 CEU_V 4.95
11 Austrian 5.09
12 Norwegian_V 5.93
13 Bosnian 6.06
14 Swedish 6.67
15 Ukrainian-West 6.99
16 CEU 7.53
17 Welsh 7.59
18 Ukrainian_V 7.7
19 Latvian_V 8.18
20 Sorb 8.26

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.1% German-North + 5.9% Jew-Iran @ 1.07
2 93.9% German-North + 6.1% Jew-Iraqi @ 1.08
3 94% German-North + 6% Jew_Iraqi @ 1.11
4 93.7% German-North + 6.3% Jew_Georgia @ 1.12
5 66.2% Croatian + 33.8% Sorb @ 1.14
6 94% German-North + 6% Jew_Kurd @ 1.15
7 62% Slovakian + 38% Bosnian @ 1.2
8 72.6% Croatian + 27.4% Polish_V @ 1.2
9 73.8% Croatian + 26.2% Russian_South @ 1.22
10 93.5% German-North + 6.5% Druze @ 1.23
11 93.8% German-North + 6.2% Jew-Uzbekistan @ 1.23
12 93.8% German-North + 6.2% Jew_Azerbaijan @ 1.23
13 93.9% German-North + 6.1% Jew_Tat @ 1.24
14 56% Sorb + 44% Serbian @ 1.24
15 72.6% Ukrainian + 27.4% Kosovar @ 1.24
16 70.9% Croatian + 29.1% Belarusian_V @ 1.24
17 51.5% Serbian + 48.5% Polish_V @ 1.26
18 58% Bosnian + 42% Sorb @ 1.26
19 94.2% German-North + 5.8% Samaritian @ 1.27
20 93.4% German-North + 6.6% Lebanese @ 1.27


puntDNAL K12 Modern
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_HG 40.95
2 Anatolian_NF 32.55
3 Caucasus_HG 22.35
4 South_African_HG 2.19
5 Near_East 1.48
6 Oceanian 0.48

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 3.47
2 Dutch_South 3.5
3 Utahn_European 5.34
4 English_South 5.45
5 Dutch_North 5.46
6 Croatian 5.85
7 Irish 5.86
8 German_North 6.08
9 Belgian 6.33
10 German_South 6.37
11 Czech 6.52
12 Romanian 7.4
13 Scottish_West 7.41
14 Norwegian 8.4
15 Swedish 9.96
16 French 11.03
17 Icelandic 11.19
18 Bulgarian 12.44
19 Belarusian 14.68
20 Mordovian 15.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.9% Dutch_South + 2.1% Khomani @ 2.2
2 98.1% Hungarian + 1.9% Khomani @ 2.36
3 87.2% Irish + 12.8% Kumyk @ 2.83
4 88.6% Irish + 11.4% North_Ossetian @ 2.9
5 84.7% Norwegian + 15.3% Turkish_Trabzon @ 2.91
6 84% Norwegian + 16% Laz @ 2.91
7 87.3% Irish + 12.7% Balkar @ 2.94
8 89.1% German_North + 10.9% Armenian @ 2.94
9 87.9% German_North + 12.1% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.94
10 90.2% Irish + 9.8% Abkhasian @ 2.95
11 86.5% Scottish_West + 13.5% Armenian @ 2.96
12 84.7% Norwegian + 15.3% Armenian @ 2.96
13 85.9% Scottish_West + 14.1% Laz @ 2.96
14 87.3% Irish + 12.7% Adygei @ 2.96
15 50.9% Hungarian + 49.1% Dutch_South @ 3
16 89.6% Irish + 10.4% Turkish_Trabzon @ 3
17 88.7% German_North + 11.3% Laz @ 3
18 90.7% Dutch_North + 9.3% Druze @ 3.01
19 89.6% German_North + 10.4% Iranian_Jew @ 3.02
20 83.2% Norwegian + 16.8% Turkish_Kayseri @ 3.03


Dodecad World9
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 70.51
2 Caucasus_Gedrosia 15.39
3 Southern 11.66
4 Siberian 0.79
5 Amerindian 0.7
6 South_Asian 0.69
7 Australasian 0.21
8 African 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 3.02
2 Dutch (Dodecad) 4.42
3 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 4.5
4 German (Dodecad) 4.88
5 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 5.13
6 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 5.75
7 Kent (1000 Genomes) 6.4
8 Cornwall (1000 Genomes) 6.43
9 British (Dodecad) 6.48
10 Argyll (1000 Genomes) 6.88
11 British_Isles (Dodecad) 7.38
12 Irish (Dodecad) 7.5
13 French (HGDP) 7.82
14 Orcadian (HGDP) 7.84
15 Polish (Dodecad) 7.98
16 Orkney (1000 Genomes) 8.33
17 French (Dodecad) 9.19
18 Belorussian (Behar) 9.58
19 Russian_B (Behar) 10.12
20 Russian (Dodecad) 10.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.2% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 11.8% Lezgins (Behar) @ 0.43
2 89.1% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 10.9% Turks (Behar) @ 0.44
3 91.9% German (Dodecad) + 8.1% Lezgins (Behar) @ 0.48
4 88.5% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 11.5% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 0.48
5 91.6% German (Dodecad) + 8.4% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 0.52
6 88.4% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 11.6% Georgians (Behar) @ 0.52
7 87.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 12.1% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 0.53
8 88.9% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 11.1% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.55
9 71.6% Lithuanian (Dodecad) + 28.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 0.58
10 90.7% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9.3% Uzbekistan_Jews @ 0.58
11 89.6% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 10.4% Armenians (Behar) @ 0.6
12 90.6% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9.4% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 0.61
13 90.7% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9.3% Armenians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.61
14 72% Lithuanian (Dodecad) + 28% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 0.62
15 89.9% Irish (Dodecad) + 10.1% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 0.62
16 89.8% Irish (Dodecad) + 10.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 0.63
17 91% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9% Azerbaijan_Jews @ 0.64
18 86.4% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 13.6% Adygei (HGDP) @ 0.65
19 90.6% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 9.4% Lezgins (Behar) @ 0.65
20 91.6% German (Dodecad) + 8.4% Adygei (HGDP) @ 0.65


puntDNAL K10 Ancient
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 45.91
2 ENF 25.66
3 CHG 25.01
4 Sub-Saharan 2.77


Finished reading population data. 108 populations found.
10 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Utahn_white @ 3.168389
2 Irish @ 3.198325
3 English_South @ 3.606432
4 Croatian @ 4.105442
5 Hungarian @ 4.194709
6 German_North @ 4.504338
7 German_South @ 4.926606
8 Czech @ 5.145704
9 Scottish_West @ 6.399967
10 Ukrainian @ 8.566728
11 French @ 9.222599
12 Norwegian @ 9.303204
13 Icelandic @ 10.045215
14 Bulgarian @ 13.105692
15 Belarusian @ 13.549383
16 Mordovian @ 15.052819
17 Finnish @ 16.905577
18 Italian_North @ 16.941000
19 Spanish_Northeast @ 17.352139
20 Estonian @ 17.504944

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% German_North +50% Croatian @ 2.877556


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lithuanian +25% Utahn_white +25% Sephardic_Jew @ 2.381978


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Lithuanian + Belarusian + Utahn_white + Sicilian @ 2.249596
2 Lithuanian + Scottish_West + Ukrainian + Sicilian @ 2.279859
3 Lithuanian + Norwegian + German_North + Sicilian @ 2.280726
4 Lithuanian + Norwegian + Norwegian + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.284099
5 Lithuanian + Ukrainian + German_North + Sicilian @ 2.292451
6 Lithuanian + Belarusian + German_South + Sicilian @ 2.298451
7 Lithuanian + Ukrainian + English_South + Sicilian @ 2.313417
8 Lithuanian + Ukrainian + Czech + Sicilian @ 2.320379
9 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Norwegian + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.327471
10 Lithuanian + Icelandic + English_South + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.328562
11 Lithuanian + Scottish_West + German_North + Sicilian @ 2.337106
12 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Belarusian + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.344759
13 Lithuanian + Icelandic + German_North + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.364502
14 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Utahn_white + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.370949
15 Lithuanian + Belarusian + Croatian + Sicilian @ 2.380774
16 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Utahn_white + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.381978
17 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Czech + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.384094
18 Lithuanian + Belarusian + Irish + Sicilian @ 2.391418
19 Lithuanian + Scottish_West + Scottish_West + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.392615
20 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + French + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.393027
Que donne vos résultats eurogene k36 ? Et avez vous essayez dna land , yourdnaportal,admixture studio , living dna ? J'ai aussi des origines orientales donc je pourrais peut-être vous aider sur cette question.

wienerfrau
female
Mensajes: 11
cai000040 escribió:
19 Enero 2020, 18:51
Bonjour,

comme vous le lirez dans l'article du lien suivant, les juifs ashkénazes se sont mariés avec des femmes des populations locales d'Europe centrale et les marqueurs correspondants se sont transmis au sein du groupe fermé qu'ils ont constitué.

Vous pouvez donc (comme signalé à plusieurs reprises dans ce forum) avoir un patrimoine génétique proche de certaines populations sans pour autant avoir des ancêtres dans ces populations. L'inverse étant bien sur possible.

https://www.alterinfo.net/Les-origines-surprenantes-des-juifs-ashkenazes_a138177.html

Cordialement
Merci bcp pour votre reponse, je vais lire donc cet article!

wienerfrau
female
Mensajes: 11
msamuel6 escribió:
19 Enero 2020, 23:38
wienerfrau escribió:
19 Enero 2020, 18:23
Bonjour, je voudrais savoir comment comprendre a mes resultats ci-dessous.Dans ma famille on se dit que nous avons un ancêtre juif, mais je n'ai rien trouvé dans les registres, sauf que j'ai beaucoup de matchs avec des Juifs ashkénazes sur Myheritage et Gedmatch. Je suis d´origine tcheque. Mon haplogroupe est H6. Quelle est votre opinion? Est-ce plutôt un ancêtre de la Perse / Iran / Irak / Asie du Sud-Ouest ou plutôt un Juif? Merci bcp!

MDLP World
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_and_East_European 42.71
2 South_and_West_European 42.46
3 Caucaus_Parsia 9.38
4 Middle_East 4.66
5 Mesoamerican 0.67
6 Indian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Czech 3.09
2 Slovenian 3.15
3 Hungarian 3.45
4 German 3.6
5 Slovakian 3.83
6 Croatian_V 3.91
7 German-North 3.99
8 Croatian 4.33
9 German_V 4.47
10 CEU_V 4.95
11 Austrian 5.09
12 Norwegian_V 5.93
13 Bosnian 6.06
14 Swedish 6.67
15 Ukrainian-West 6.99
16 CEU 7.53
17 Welsh 7.59
18 Ukrainian_V 7.7
19 Latvian_V 8.18
20 Sorb 8.26

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.1% German-North + 5.9% Jew-Iran @ 1.07
2 93.9% German-North + 6.1% Jew-Iraqi @ 1.08
3 94% German-North + 6% Jew_Iraqi @ 1.11
4 93.7% German-North + 6.3% Jew_Georgia @ 1.12
5 66.2% Croatian + 33.8% Sorb @ 1.14
6 94% German-North + 6% Jew_Kurd @ 1.15
7 62% Slovakian + 38% Bosnian @ 1.2
8 72.6% Croatian + 27.4% Polish_V @ 1.2
9 73.8% Croatian + 26.2% Russian_South @ 1.22
10 93.5% German-North + 6.5% Druze @ 1.23
11 93.8% German-North + 6.2% Jew-Uzbekistan @ 1.23
12 93.8% German-North + 6.2% Jew_Azerbaijan @ 1.23
13 93.9% German-North + 6.1% Jew_Tat @ 1.24
14 56% Sorb + 44% Serbian @ 1.24
15 72.6% Ukrainian + 27.4% Kosovar @ 1.24
16 70.9% Croatian + 29.1% Belarusian_V @ 1.24
17 51.5% Serbian + 48.5% Polish_V @ 1.26
18 58% Bosnian + 42% Sorb @ 1.26
19 94.2% German-North + 5.8% Samaritian @ 1.27
20 93.4% German-North + 6.6% Lebanese @ 1.27


puntDNAL K12 Modern
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_HG 40.95
2 Anatolian_NF 32.55
3 Caucasus_HG 22.35
4 South_African_HG 2.19
5 Near_East 1.48
6 Oceanian 0.48

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 3.47
2 Dutch_South 3.5
3 Utahn_European 5.34
4 English_South 5.45
5 Dutch_North 5.46
6 Croatian 5.85
7 Irish 5.86
8 German_North 6.08
9 Belgian 6.33
10 German_South 6.37
11 Czech 6.52
12 Romanian 7.4
13 Scottish_West 7.41
14 Norwegian 8.4
15 Swedish 9.96
16 French 11.03
17 Icelandic 11.19
18 Bulgarian 12.44
19 Belarusian 14.68
20 Mordovian 15.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.9% Dutch_South + 2.1% Khomani @ 2.2
2 98.1% Hungarian + 1.9% Khomani @ 2.36
3 87.2% Irish + 12.8% Kumyk @ 2.83
4 88.6% Irish + 11.4% North_Ossetian @ 2.9
5 84.7% Norwegian + 15.3% Turkish_Trabzon @ 2.91
6 84% Norwegian + 16% Laz @ 2.91
7 87.3% Irish + 12.7% Balkar @ 2.94
8 89.1% German_North + 10.9% Armenian @ 2.94
9 87.9% German_North + 12.1% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.94
10 90.2% Irish + 9.8% Abkhasian @ 2.95
11 86.5% Scottish_West + 13.5% Armenian @ 2.96
12 84.7% Norwegian + 15.3% Armenian @ 2.96
13 85.9% Scottish_West + 14.1% Laz @ 2.96
14 87.3% Irish + 12.7% Adygei @ 2.96
15 50.9% Hungarian + 49.1% Dutch_South @ 3
16 89.6% Irish + 10.4% Turkish_Trabzon @ 3
17 88.7% German_North + 11.3% Laz @ 3
18 90.7% Dutch_North + 9.3% Druze @ 3.01
19 89.6% German_North + 10.4% Iranian_Jew @ 3.02
20 83.2% Norwegian + 16.8% Turkish_Kayseri @ 3.03


Dodecad World9
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 70.51
2 Caucasus_Gedrosia 15.39
3 Southern 11.66
4 Siberian 0.79
5 Amerindian 0.7
6 South_Asian 0.69
7 Australasian 0.21
8 African 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 3.02
2 Dutch (Dodecad) 4.42
3 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 4.5
4 German (Dodecad) 4.88
5 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 5.13
6 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 5.75
7 Kent (1000 Genomes) 6.4
8 Cornwall (1000 Genomes) 6.43
9 British (Dodecad) 6.48
10 Argyll (1000 Genomes) 6.88
11 British_Isles (Dodecad) 7.38
12 Irish (Dodecad) 7.5
13 French (HGDP) 7.82
14 Orcadian (HGDP) 7.84
15 Polish (Dodecad) 7.98
16 Orkney (1000 Genomes) 8.33
17 French (Dodecad) 9.19
18 Belorussian (Behar) 9.58
19 Russian_B (Behar) 10.12
20 Russian (Dodecad) 10.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.2% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 11.8% Lezgins (Behar) @ 0.43
2 89.1% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 10.9% Turks (Behar) @ 0.44
3 91.9% German (Dodecad) + 8.1% Lezgins (Behar) @ 0.48
4 88.5% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 11.5% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 0.48
5 91.6% German (Dodecad) + 8.4% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 0.52
6 88.4% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 11.6% Georgians (Behar) @ 0.52
7 87.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 12.1% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 0.53
8 88.9% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 11.1% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.55
9 71.6% Lithuanian (Dodecad) + 28.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 0.58
10 90.7% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9.3% Uzbekistan_Jews @ 0.58
11 89.6% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 10.4% Armenians (Behar) @ 0.6
12 90.6% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9.4% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 0.61
13 90.7% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9.3% Armenians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.61
14 72% Lithuanian (Dodecad) + 28% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 0.62
15 89.9% Irish (Dodecad) + 10.1% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 0.62
16 89.8% Irish (Dodecad) + 10.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 0.63
17 91% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9% Azerbaijan_Jews @ 0.64
18 86.4% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 13.6% Adygei (HGDP) @ 0.65
19 90.6% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 9.4% Lezgins (Behar) @ 0.65
20 91.6% German (Dodecad) + 8.4% Adygei (HGDP) @ 0.65


puntDNAL K10 Ancient
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 45.91
2 ENF 25.66
3 CHG 25.01
4 Sub-Saharan 2.77


Finished reading population data. 108 populations found.
10 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Utahn_white @ 3.168389
2 Irish @ 3.198325
3 English_South @ 3.606432
4 Croatian @ 4.105442
5 Hungarian @ 4.194709
6 German_North @ 4.504338
7 German_South @ 4.926606
8 Czech @ 5.145704
9 Scottish_West @ 6.399967
10 Ukrainian @ 8.566728
11 French @ 9.222599
12 Norwegian @ 9.303204
13 Icelandic @ 10.045215
14 Bulgarian @ 13.105692
15 Belarusian @ 13.549383
16 Mordovian @ 15.052819
17 Finnish @ 16.905577
18 Italian_North @ 16.941000
19 Spanish_Northeast @ 17.352139
20 Estonian @ 17.504944

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% German_North +50% Croatian @ 2.877556


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lithuanian +25% Utahn_white +25% Sephardic_Jew @ 2.381978


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Lithuanian + Belarusian + Utahn_white + Sicilian @ 2.249596
2 Lithuanian + Scottish_West + Ukrainian + Sicilian @ 2.279859
3 Lithuanian + Norwegian + German_North + Sicilian @ 2.280726
4 Lithuanian + Norwegian + Norwegian + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.284099
5 Lithuanian + Ukrainian + German_North + Sicilian @ 2.292451
6 Lithuanian + Belarusian + German_South + Sicilian @ 2.298451
7 Lithuanian + Ukrainian + English_South + Sicilian @ 2.313417
8 Lithuanian + Ukrainian + Czech + Sicilian @ 2.320379
9 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Norwegian + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.327471
10 Lithuanian + Icelandic + English_South + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.328562
11 Lithuanian + Scottish_West + German_North + Sicilian @ 2.337106
12 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Belarusian + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.344759
13 Lithuanian + Icelandic + German_North + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.364502
14 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Utahn_white + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.370949
15 Lithuanian + Belarusian + Croatian + Sicilian @ 2.380774
16 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Utahn_white + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.381978
17 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Czech + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.384094
18 Lithuanian + Belarusian + Irish + Sicilian @ 2.391418
19 Lithuanian + Scottish_West + Scottish_West + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.392615
20 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + French + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.393027
Que donne vos résultats eurogene k36 ? Et avez vous essayez dna land , yourdnaportal,admixture studio , living dna ? J'ai aussi des origines orientales donc je pourrais peut-être vous aider sur cette question.
Merci bcp pour votre reponse, ici sont mes resultas de K36:
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 2.20 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 10.63 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 6.04 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 7.69 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 10.34 Pct
Fennoscandian 14.92 Pct
French 5.37 Pct
Iberian 7.67 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 5.73 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 13.19 Pct
North_Caucasian 5.41 Pct
North_Sea 10.19 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 0.62 Pct

Je n´ai pas essayer d´autre que MyHeritage et Gedmatch.
Quelle est votre opinion? Merci d´avance.

msamuel6
male
Mensajes: 626
wienerfrau escribió:
20 Enero 2020, 19:17
msamuel6 escribió:
19 Enero 2020, 23:38
wienerfrau escribió:
19 Enero 2020, 18:23
Bonjour, je voudrais savoir comment comprendre a mes resultats ci-dessous.Dans ma famille on se dit que nous avons un ancêtre juif, mais je n'ai rien trouvé dans les registres, sauf que j'ai beaucoup de matchs avec des Juifs ashkénazes sur Myheritage et Gedmatch. Je suis d´origine tcheque. Mon haplogroupe est H6. Quelle est votre opinion? Est-ce plutôt un ancêtre de la Perse / Iran / Irak / Asie du Sud-Ouest ou plutôt un Juif? Merci bcp!

MDLP World
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_and_East_European 42.71
2 South_and_West_European 42.46
3 Caucaus_Parsia 9.38
4 Middle_East 4.66
5 Mesoamerican 0.67
6 Indian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Czech 3.09
2 Slovenian 3.15
3 Hungarian 3.45
4 German 3.6
5 Slovakian 3.83
6 Croatian_V 3.91
7 German-North 3.99
8 Croatian 4.33
9 German_V 4.47
10 CEU_V 4.95
11 Austrian 5.09
12 Norwegian_V 5.93
13 Bosnian 6.06
14 Swedish 6.67
15 Ukrainian-West 6.99
16 CEU 7.53
17 Welsh 7.59
18 Ukrainian_V 7.7
19 Latvian_V 8.18
20 Sorb 8.26

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.1% German-North + 5.9% Jew-Iran @ 1.07
2 93.9% German-North + 6.1% Jew-Iraqi @ 1.08
3 94% German-North + 6% Jew_Iraqi @ 1.11
4 93.7% German-North + 6.3% Jew_Georgia @ 1.12
5 66.2% Croatian + 33.8% Sorb @ 1.14
6 94% German-North + 6% Jew_Kurd @ 1.15
7 62% Slovakian + 38% Bosnian @ 1.2
8 72.6% Croatian + 27.4% Polish_V @ 1.2
9 73.8% Croatian + 26.2% Russian_South @ 1.22
10 93.5% German-North + 6.5% Druze @ 1.23
11 93.8% German-North + 6.2% Jew-Uzbekistan @ 1.23
12 93.8% German-North + 6.2% Jew_Azerbaijan @ 1.23
13 93.9% German-North + 6.1% Jew_Tat @ 1.24
14 56% Sorb + 44% Serbian @ 1.24
15 72.6% Ukrainian + 27.4% Kosovar @ 1.24
16 70.9% Croatian + 29.1% Belarusian_V @ 1.24
17 51.5% Serbian + 48.5% Polish_V @ 1.26
18 58% Bosnian + 42% Sorb @ 1.26
19 94.2% German-North + 5.8% Samaritian @ 1.27
20 93.4% German-North + 6.6% Lebanese @ 1.27


puntDNAL K12 Modern
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_HG 40.95
2 Anatolian_NF 32.55
3 Caucasus_HG 22.35
4 South_African_HG 2.19
5 Near_East 1.48
6 Oceanian 0.48

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 3.47
2 Dutch_South 3.5
3 Utahn_European 5.34
4 English_South 5.45
5 Dutch_North 5.46
6 Croatian 5.85
7 Irish 5.86
8 German_North 6.08
9 Belgian 6.33
10 German_South 6.37
11 Czech 6.52
12 Romanian 7.4
13 Scottish_West 7.41
14 Norwegian 8.4
15 Swedish 9.96
16 French 11.03
17 Icelandic 11.19
18 Bulgarian 12.44
19 Belarusian 14.68
20 Mordovian 15.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.9% Dutch_South + 2.1% Khomani @ 2.2
2 98.1% Hungarian + 1.9% Khomani @ 2.36
3 87.2% Irish + 12.8% Kumyk @ 2.83
4 88.6% Irish + 11.4% North_Ossetian @ 2.9
5 84.7% Norwegian + 15.3% Turkish_Trabzon @ 2.91
6 84% Norwegian + 16% Laz @ 2.91
7 87.3% Irish + 12.7% Balkar @ 2.94
8 89.1% German_North + 10.9% Armenian @ 2.94
9 87.9% German_North + 12.1% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.94
10 90.2% Irish + 9.8% Abkhasian @ 2.95
11 86.5% Scottish_West + 13.5% Armenian @ 2.96
12 84.7% Norwegian + 15.3% Armenian @ 2.96
13 85.9% Scottish_West + 14.1% Laz @ 2.96
14 87.3% Irish + 12.7% Adygei @ 2.96
15 50.9% Hungarian + 49.1% Dutch_South @ 3
16 89.6% Irish + 10.4% Turkish_Trabzon @ 3
17 88.7% German_North + 11.3% Laz @ 3
18 90.7% Dutch_North + 9.3% Druze @ 3.01
19 89.6% German_North + 10.4% Iranian_Jew @ 3.02
20 83.2% Norwegian + 16.8% Turkish_Kayseri @ 3.03


Dodecad World9
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 70.51
2 Caucasus_Gedrosia 15.39
3 Southern 11.66
4 Siberian 0.79
5 Amerindian 0.7
6 South_Asian 0.69
7 Australasian 0.21
8 African 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 3.02
2 Dutch (Dodecad) 4.42
3 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 4.5
4 German (Dodecad) 4.88
5 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 5.13
6 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 5.75
7 Kent (1000 Genomes) 6.4
8 Cornwall (1000 Genomes) 6.43
9 British (Dodecad) 6.48
10 Argyll (1000 Genomes) 6.88
11 British_Isles (Dodecad) 7.38
12 Irish (Dodecad) 7.5
13 French (HGDP) 7.82
14 Orcadian (HGDP) 7.84
15 Polish (Dodecad) 7.98
16 Orkney (1000 Genomes) 8.33
17 French (Dodecad) 9.19
18 Belorussian (Behar) 9.58
19 Russian_B (Behar) 10.12
20 Russian (Dodecad) 10.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.2% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 11.8% Lezgins (Behar) @ 0.43
2 89.1% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 10.9% Turks (Behar) @ 0.44
3 91.9% German (Dodecad) + 8.1% Lezgins (Behar) @ 0.48
4 88.5% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 11.5% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 0.48
5 91.6% German (Dodecad) + 8.4% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 0.52
6 88.4% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 11.6% Georgians (Behar) @ 0.52
7 87.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 12.1% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 0.53
8 88.9% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 11.1% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.55
9 71.6% Lithuanian (Dodecad) + 28.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 0.58
10 90.7% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9.3% Uzbekistan_Jews @ 0.58
11 89.6% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 10.4% Armenians (Behar) @ 0.6
12 90.6% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9.4% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 0.61
13 90.7% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9.3% Armenians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.61
14 72% Lithuanian (Dodecad) + 28% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 0.62
15 89.9% Irish (Dodecad) + 10.1% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 0.62
16 89.8% Irish (Dodecad) + 10.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 0.63
17 91% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9% Azerbaijan_Jews @ 0.64
18 86.4% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 13.6% Adygei (HGDP) @ 0.65
19 90.6% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 9.4% Lezgins (Behar) @ 0.65
20 91.6% German (Dodecad) + 8.4% Adygei (HGDP) @ 0.65


puntDNAL K10 Ancient
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 45.91
2 ENF 25.66
3 CHG 25.01
4 Sub-Saharan 2.77


Finished reading population data. 108 populations found.
10 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Utahn_white @ 3.168389
2 Irish @ 3.198325
3 English_South @ 3.606432
4 Croatian @ 4.105442
5 Hungarian @ 4.194709
6 German_North @ 4.504338
7 German_South @ 4.926606
8 Czech @ 5.145704
9 Scottish_West @ 6.399967
10 Ukrainian @ 8.566728
11 French @ 9.222599
12 Norwegian @ 9.303204
13 Icelandic @ 10.045215
14 Bulgarian @ 13.105692
15 Belarusian @ 13.549383
16 Mordovian @ 15.052819
17 Finnish @ 16.905577
18 Italian_North @ 16.941000
19 Spanish_Northeast @ 17.352139
20 Estonian @ 17.504944

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% German_North +50% Croatian @ 2.877556


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lithuanian +25% Utahn_white +25% Sephardic_Jew @ 2.381978


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Lithuanian + Belarusian + Utahn_white + Sicilian @ 2.249596
2 Lithuanian + Scottish_West + Ukrainian + Sicilian @ 2.279859
3 Lithuanian + Norwegian + German_North + Sicilian @ 2.280726
4 Lithuanian + Norwegian + Norwegian + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.284099
5 Lithuanian + Ukrainian + German_North + Sicilian @ 2.292451
6 Lithuanian + Belarusian + German_South + Sicilian @ 2.298451
7 Lithuanian + Ukrainian + English_South + Sicilian @ 2.313417
8 Lithuanian + Ukrainian + Czech + Sicilian @ 2.320379
9 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Norwegian + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.327471
10 Lithuanian + Icelandic + English_South + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.328562
11 Lithuanian + Scottish_West + German_North + Sicilian @ 2.337106
12 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Belarusian + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.344759
13 Lithuanian + Icelandic + German_North + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.364502
14 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Utahn_white + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.370949
15 Lithuanian + Belarusian + Croatian + Sicilian @ 2.380774
16 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Utahn_white + Sephardic_Jew @ 2.381978
17 Lithuanian + Icelandic + Czech + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.384094
18 Lithuanian + Belarusian + Irish + Sicilian @ 2.391418
19 Lithuanian + Scottish_West + Scottish_West + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.392615
20 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + French + Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.393027
Que donne vos résultats eurogene k36 ? Et avez vous essayez dna land , yourdnaportal,admixture studio , living dna ? J'ai aussi des origines orientales donc je pourrais peut-être vous aider sur cette question.
Merci bcp pour votre reponse, ici sont mes resultas de K36:
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 2.20 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 10.63 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 6.04 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 7.69 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 10.34 Pct
Fennoscandian 14.92 Pct
French 5.37 Pct
Iberian 7.67 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 5.73 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 13.19 Pct
North_Caucasian 5.41 Pct
North_Sea 10.19 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 0.62 Pct

Je n´ai pas essayer d´autre que MyHeritage et Gedmatch.
Quelle est votre opinion? Merci d´avance.
Ha vue d'œil, vue vos % nord caucasien je pencherais plus pour une origine perse que juive car vos % de levantin (east med/neareast) et d'arabe sont nul...... Il fait que vous essayez dna land c'est gratuit et ça vous donnera une bonne base.

msamuel6
male
Mensajes: 626
Il y a living dna aussi, le téléchargement est gratuit mais si vous voulez plus de détails il faudra payer 29€ pour avoir des résultats plus précis, et c'est rapide, seulement quelques minutes pour obtenir des résultats.

wienerfrau
female
Mensajes: 11
merci Samuel, moi aussi je pense que c´est plutot Iranian/Perse - vue mes autres results:

Gedrosia K12

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 40.58
2 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 32.08
3 CAUCASUS 14.85
4 BALOCHI 7.56
5 SW_ASIAN 3.39
6 S_INDIAN 0.66
7 E_SIBERIAN 0.59
8 W_SIBERIAN 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Norwegian 14.73
2 Russian 23.59
3 Greek 24.72
4 Finnish 28.02
5 Estonian 29.98
6 Lithuanian 31.21
7 Sicilian 31.45
8 Turks_Istanbul 34.81
9 Tajik_Pomiri 38.4
10 Turks_Aydin 38.67
11 Turks_Balikesir 38.9
12 Turkmen_Afghan 41.13
13 Kurds_C 42.16
14 Kurds_N 42.56
15 Uzbek 42.64
16 Turks_Adana 44.36
17 Uzbek_Afghan 44.64
18 Tajik_Afghan 44.71
19 Kurds_F 44.74
20 Kurds_E 44.75

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.5% Norwegian + 25.5% Kurds_N @ 2.36
2 75.5% Norwegian + 24.5% Kurds_E @ 2.47
3 77.2% Norwegian + 22.8% Iranian @ 2.64
4 74.5% Norwegian + 25.5% Kurds_C @ 3.1
5 75.6% Norwegian + 24.4% Kurds_F @ 3.26
6 77.4% Norwegian + 22.6% Armenian @ 3.4
7 70.7% Norwegian + 29.3% Turks_Istanbul @ 3.44
8 75.9% Norwegian + 24.1% Turks_Kayseri @ 3.64
9 75.6% Norwegian + 24.4% Turks_Adana @ 3.79
10 76.1% Norwegian + 23.9% Iraqi_Chaldeans @ 3.82
11 78% Norwegian + 22% Assyrian @ 3.99
12 77.3% Norwegian + 22.7% Iraqi_Mandaeans @ 4.05
13 76.2% Norwegian + 23.8% Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 4.2
14 73.2% Norwegian + 26.8% Turks_Aydin @ 4.4
15 77.1% Norwegian + 22.9% Iraqi_Jew @ 4.51
16 73.6% Norwegian + 26.4% Turks_Balikesir @ 5.01
17 81.3% Norwegian + 18.7% Turks_Trabzon @ 5.31
18 83.8% Norwegian + 16.2% Abkhasian @ 6.08
19 83.9% Norwegian + 16.1% Georgian @ 6.1
20 77% Norwegian + 23% Tajik_Afghan @ 6.52


Ancient Eurasia K6
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 39.25
2 Natufian 36.38
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 21.54
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.76
5 Sub_Saharan 1.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 4.91
2 Hungarian 5.42
3 Romanian 6.57
4 Ukrainian 6.6
5 Czech 6.75
6 English 7.31
7 French 7.42
8 Bulgarian 7.45
9 Norwegian 7.5
10 Scottish 7.58
11 Icelandic 9.82
12 Europe_LNBA 10.02
13 Spanish 10.33
14 Steppe_MLBA 11.4
15 Estonian 12.24
16 Albanian 12.41
17 Russian 12.92
18 Greek 13.32
19 Lithuanian 13.41
20 Finnish 14.3

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.5% English + 14.5% Baloch_Iranian @ 0.72
2 85.7% English + 14.3% Makrani @ 0.75
3 84.1% Scottish + 15.9% Iranian_Lori @ 1.04
4 77.7% Europe_LNBA + 22.3% Jew_Iranian @ 1.06
5 86.8% English + 13.2% CHG @ 1.09
6 86.1% English + 13.9% Brahui @ 1.1
7 83.9% Scottish + 16.1% Iran_LN @ 1.12
8 77.9% Europe_LNBA + 22.1% Jew_iraqi @ 1.14
9 68.3% Europe_LNBA + 31.7% Armenia_ChL @ 1.17
10 77.4% Europe_LNBA + 22.6% Assyrian @ 1.2
11 82.9% Scottish + 17.1% Iranian_Shirazi @ 1.2
12 83.6% Scottish + 16.4% Iran_N @ 1.2
13 71.5% Spanish + 28.5% Steppe_EMBA @ 1.2
14 86.1% English + 13.9% Balochi @ 1.22
15 78.2% Icelandic + 21.8% Kurd_C @ 1.26
16 63.5% Jew_iraqi + 36.5% Motala12 @ 1.28
17 84.1% English + 15.9% Iran_N @ 1.29
18 83.2% Scottish + 16.8% Kurd_F @ 1.33
19 86.6% Czech + 13.4% Baloch_Iranian @ 1.33
20 76.8% Icelandic + 23.2% Iran_N_WC1 @ 1.34

Pour l´origine tcheque je pense que c´est vraiment intéressant.

msamuel6
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Vous pouvez aussi rentrer vos résultats Eurogenes k36 la dessus, cela vous indiquera vos origines du paléolithique, du neolithique et de l'age du cuivre. Ça peut toujours nous servir : https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K36expe2.htm


wienerfrau
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alors, Samuel, voila :-)

Du paléolithique
(ca 20 000 years go)

Europe 87
Anatolie 7
Caucase + Zagros 6

Du néolithique
(ca 7 000 years ago)

Chasseurs-Cueilleurs d'Europe 79
Fermiers Anatoliens et Européens: 15 dont Euro South-East: 8 et Anatolian: 7
Fermiers du Caucase et des Monts Zagros 6

De l'âge des métaux
(ca 4 500 years ago)

Europe du NE: Correspond à une partie d'anciens chasseurs-cueilleurs essentiellement restés dans le Nord-Est de l'Europe.
8
Indo-européens et assimilés: Correspond en partie aux anciens chasseurs-cueilleurs d'Europe et du caucase, ayant migrés avec les expansions indo-européennes.
76
Fermiers Européens: Correspond aux agriculteurs Européens de la fin du Néolithique.
12
Anatolian/Caucasian du Chalcolithique: Correspond aux Anatoliens du Chalcolithique ou âge du cuivre.
3

msamuel6
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wienerfrau escribió:
20 Enero 2020, 20:00
alors, Samuel, voila :-)

Du paléolithique
(ca 20 000 years go)

Europe 87
Anatolie 7
Caucase + Zagros 6

Du néolithique
(ca 7 000 years ago)

Chasseurs-Cueilleurs d'Europe 79
Fermiers Anatoliens et Européens: 15 dont Euro South-East: 8 et Anatolian: 7
Fermiers du Caucase et des Monts Zagros 6

De l'âge des métaux
(ca 4 500 years ago)

Europe du NE: Correspond à une partie d'anciens chasseurs-cueilleurs essentiellement restés dans le Nord-Est de l'Europe.
8
Indo-européens et assimilés: Correspond en partie aux anciens chasseurs-cueilleurs d'Europe et du caucase, ayant migrés avec les expansions indo-européennes.
76
Fermiers Européens: Correspond aux agriculteurs Européens de la fin du Néolithique.
12
Anatolian/Caucasian du Chalcolithique: Correspond aux Anatoliens du Chalcolithique ou âge du cuivre.
3
Point positif : vos % caucasus /zagros (montagne perse) apparaissent.
Point négatif : ces % disparaissent au débuts de l'ere antique (-2500 ans) apres vos % anatolien bien que négligeable et les % indo-européennes peuvent nous apporter plus d'informations donc autant vous dire qu'il faudra plus creuser mais si vous êtes fort en informatique et que vous voulez en découdre dès ce soir j'ai la solution pour vous :)


msamuel6
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1 ere étape, allez télécharger l'admixture studio sur ce site, le lien sera dans la partie télécharger :https://dnagenics.com/admixture-studio/

wienerfrau
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et qqc de Gedmatch? que vous preferez d´utiliser pour cet raison de la question persian?

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